HOA True Believers

[NOTE:  Some time in January, 2007, the AHRC web site disappeared.  A note posted on other sites, apparently from AHRC, stated that their site host had suffered a break into several servers, among which was theirs, and that they were working on the problem, and would be back on-line soon.  A month later and they're not back.  Of course, their own particular group of "True Believers" immediately claimed CAI was behind it, which is laughable, given the state of CAI's technology.  Other postings mused about the lawsuits in which the site owners were involved, but so far, no solid answers - and no great loss.  As of March 7th, they were back on line with their usual unproven allegations]

American Homeowners Resource Center

 

Background

The American Homeowners Resource Center (AHRC) is the 800 pound gorilla of anti-HOA sites, and as such spends most of its time jumping up and down, making noise, resulting only in the attraction of more fleas.  Using sophisticated technology and editing posts to push their message, this site is the most highly ranked among the "True Believer" sites.  Of course, it helps when you re-send every complaint out as a "news" item, leave them posted for years, and re-cycle old  posts to the front of your web site.  Agree with their mantra and your posts and comments get visibility.  Challenge or question the party line and you get edited, deleted or blasted, (or all three). 

If you see their "News" page, it will have a few posts that are relatively recent, but as you go down the news headlines, the dates suddenly become two years old.  They have some favorite people and organizations that they like to regularly berate, and so these stories become almost permanent fixtures on their "News" page. The "Breaking News" in the right hand column suffers from the same lack of breaking news, but manages to keep the same nasty, biased writings near the top, no matter how old they are.

The majority of the site is given over to any piece of garbage it can find to abase community associations, the volunteers that are elected to govern them, the professionals who work for them and the organizations that work with them.  In other words, any one other than the owners who write to them about being angry at their association.

The problem is that legitimate news sources pick up their garbage, and without checking, simply quote it, which gives it legs around the internet and in news circles.  But it's not news.  It is one-sided opinion, with no actual independent reporting, investigation or writing.  It is propaganda, pure and simple.

People behind it

The web site is apparently owned and operated by Californian's Arnold and Elizabeth McMahon.  They have a number of people who are titled "Editors" who help manage the site.  Ms. McMahon has a long history with both the legislature and the courts of California, but her personal story or history is not what this site is about, so we will refer tp her in the same manner she refers to those who oppose her -    If you also notice a decidedly low opinions of courts, it could have to do with Ms. McMahon's first hand experiences.  The "Editors" are basically those who lead and encourage the ranting and when things get slow add a few more of their own, think Himmler and Goebbels.

The editor most often appearing is Jan Jackson, from Colorado.  Jan is a discussion board killer.  There is no discussion.  If you don't agree with her, you're obviously an idiot, but not beneath contempt, as she will point out to you.  When asked by one of her arch enemies, CAI, to state her positions and beliefs for an article they were writing, her response was indicative of her attitude: "The only words any HOA/CIC homeowner needs to speak to any CAI member are the following: YOU CAN GO STRAIGHT TO HELL, AND YOU CAN TAKE ALL OF YOUR SOCIETALLY AND FINANCIALLY DESTRUCTIVE POWER-AND-MONEY SEEKING CAI LAWYER BUDDIES WITH YOU!!!!!"  Any site that gives this person the title of editor is not a "publishing" site, it's not even an "advocacy" site.....it's a site run to allow jerks to say whatever they want and get away with it.  If you hate everything she hates, then you're obviously a "fellow traveler" and True Believer and nice words will follow.  Here is Jan in action:

From: Yaya
AHRC User - HOA Forum


Re: Advice re: HOA ruling against me
#11382 - 07/31/07 02:08 AM

I am president of an association in Colorado. We have had problems with homeowners completing landscaping and not complying with DRC guidelines. This year we posed fines. At a meeting last week someone sugested we forgive a fine based on the fact that someone in the family died. Can we do this legally if the house is brought into compliance with out setting a standard of forgiving everybodies fines? We have a small group who really don't want covenants. They do not see the value in them and they are the ones who put this idea on the floor. They also feel people should be able to do what they want in thier yards. Anybody ever have this come up?
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From: Jan Jackson (Moderator)
AHRC User - HOA Forum - Colorado


Re: Advice re: HOA ruling against me
#11385 - 07/31/07 09:18 AM

Yaya,

Yes, this sort of thing comes up all the time in HOAs/CICs. In fact, an HOA/CIC homeowner is, right now, sitting on death row awaiting his fate because of it (he shot, wounded and killed several board and other HOA/CIC members in his HOA/CID during a meeting.

What did he do that caused his HOA/CIC board and their lawyer to come down so hard on him (financially) that he thought his only recourse was violence? He pruned his rose bushes the way HE wanted them pruned, not the way the HOA/CIC board wanted them pruned.

My suggestion to you would be to get your "small group" of homeowners together and dissolve your association before something terrible happens.

Jan
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From: Yaya
AHRC User - HOA Forum


Re: Advice re: HOA ruling against me
#11387 - 07/31/07 09:46 AM

Wow I am really shocked by your answer. I am passing it on to the other Board members. I have never asked a question or been part of a forum. I thought I could get some advice and information from this site. I thought I would be able to gleem something that I could share with homeowners that protected our covenants yet allowed us to be human. I guess you are saying that this is not possible. Wow I am blown away . Is this an anti HOA site? I thought it helped people work through issues that HOA's had from time to time. And also offered a forum for people faced with legal battles over HOA issues, developer issues and disputes. Is there another web site that offers that kind of support?

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From: Jan Jackson (Moderator)
AHRC User - HOA Forum - Colorado


Re: Advice re: HOA ruling against me
#11389 - 07/31/07 12:29 PM

Presidents of HOAs/CICs (and their attorneys) often appear to be "shocked" by facts and law when they first hear it.

Here's another suggestion: How about "passing it [the information I just gave you] on to" the membership of your HOA/CIC? If I remember your first post here correctly, it sounded to me like some (or many?) of your members were interested in doing away with your HOA/CIC. If so, it's really quite easy to do, factually and legally.

OTOH, if you and the board and any member supporters you have oppose that idea, it sounds like you (the association) may be in for one heckuva lawsuit in the near future (once your members figure out what might really be going on in your HOA/CIC), eh?

What city/county/state did you say your HOA/CIC was in? And what did you say the name of your HOA/CIC was?

Jan

First she brings up murdering board members, then dissolving the association and then suing the board members, none of which answers the person's question.  Jan never bothers with the questions, she already has all the answers.  I'd like to say she's hit a new low, but their is no "bottom" for Jan, she just keeps going lower and lower.

Jan got smacked by a Colorado judge for libeling the board of directors of her association.  The judge didn't think much of her case or her attitude.  Read the decision

Examples of their work

Example 1

Here is the headline, in large red print, that appeared September 29, 2006:

"I am a Federal Auditor researching the structure, rules, and regulations of the Second Iron Gate Community in Manassas, Virginia
Can you direct me to resources and contacts that would assist in my research into the HOAs towing practices"

If you read that, what would you think?  That the Federal government was investigating HOA towing practices?  Your next question might be "Why would the Federal government be involved in this type of thing?"  The answer is that they're NOT.  Here is what the actual letter said:

"I am a Federal Auditor for an Inspector General.

I am privately researching the structure, rules, regulations, and the rights of the Homeowner Association and its members in the Second Iron Gate Community, Manassas Virginia.

Can you direct me to resources (including point of contacts) that would assist in my research?" (Emphasis added)

Notice AHRC conveniently edited out the part where the author indicates that he is privately researching the issue.  The government isn't involved at all,  but that's not what is implied in the headline. 

Example 2

I'll let you read this exchange first:

This note is for the Editor for the AHRC HOA Forum

This note expresses concern about the editing on the Forum Topic "Proposed Texas Uniform Planning Community Act" on the HOA Forums

The original post contains an editorial comment " NOTE: The TUPCA organization and the Texas Uniform Planning Communication Act appears to be the creation of a group of CAI lawyers. Were any homeowners represented in the writing of this Texas Homeowner Association Legislative Initiative?...HOA Forum Editor"

I believe it is inappropriate to add that editorial comment without investigating first.

Under the Q&A, you will find that AHRC forums were used as part of obtaining inputs from individual members.

I don't know whether or not CAI lawyers were involved or not. The ideas presented should be evaluated on their merits. Any concern about authors should be part of the skepticism that may be used, not to accept or reject.

I object to the heavy handed editing occurring of my post, which was deleted. I did check the TUPCA website and determined the proposal has merit, and added my thoughts for discussion. I find it refreshing that the Texas lawyers are proposing legislation to protect purchasers and owners.

Trust your users/contributors to your forum. Those of us interested in improving rights of members in POAs advocate open meetings and access of all records of the POA. Your forum should do likewise.

Don N
Michigan

AHRC Staff Response

Dear Don:

1. Re: I believe it is inappropriate to add that editorial comment without investigating first.

The editorial comment was added based on the homeowner investigations on the orgins of TUPCA and articles from longtime, experienced, and trusted Texas advocates who have testified before Texas legislative committees.

2. Re; Why the HOA Forum Editor deleted your advertisment telling homeowners to support TUPCA merely because you have "read it" .

You are a stranger to the AHRC HOA Forum and your advertisment for a CAI initiative basically stated "Trust me ...I say TUPCA is good for homeowners. Therefore Support TUPCA"

The AHRC Forum is not a place for people with unknown affinities to campaign for CAI or other vendor initiatives and therefore your posting was deleted.

You now write:

"I don't know whether or not CAI lawyers were involved or not....Trust your users/contributors to your forum."

TUPCA has been written about extensively by the experienced and trusted homeowner advocates in Texas. Unlike you, they are quite familiar with the origins and the players who wrote the bill. They gave their analysis, and took time to explain the origins, content of TUPCA and why it would hurt homeowners.

Discussion Forums are for people who have a genuine commitment to the rights of homeowners. Your failure to analyse the considered opinions of true homeowner advocates on the ground in Texas, raises a serious question in our mind whether you really represent CAI and/or other trade groups. If you genuinely think and can demonstrate that their position is wrong, then we will be happy to consider posting it.

Homeowner advocates have selflessly given their time and knowledge to help protect our homes and families. You should at least articulate why you think they are wrong. They deserve no less.
 

Basically, if you don't toe the party line, your opinion will first be edited, then slammed and finally removed, as the writer's  original post was.  The key is the line: "Discussion Forums are for people have a genuine commitment to the rights of homeowners."  Differing opinions, no matter how considered or thought out, can be "fixed".  That means this is not a "publishing" site, nor are these "Discussion Boards".   Notice the paranoia---because you didn't agree with our people in Texas, you're a CAI spy.  What's worse, you're a stranger, therefore automatically suspect.  God forbid that some writer actually put forward a well thought-out opinion....

"Rudeness is the weak man's imitation of strength"

 

Example 3  (The Rush Limbaugh/Sean Hannity approach to "fair and balanced" reporting)

Here's a letter entitled "A Bird's Eye View of America's Homeowner Associations  A Guide to Writers and Journalists

Los Angeles, California -
Recently a British free lance journalist on assignment to write an article about homeowner associations for a financial publication called AHRC for information. We provided him with information and then sent him a list of articles to read before calling us back again for additional information.

We are publishing the list of articles we sent him. We think this list will give other writers a thumbnail view of homeowner associations as well.


Dear Jounalist: (sic)

You will receive a web based sample of newsletter from AHRC tomorrow. Please use the unsubscribe link at the end of the newsletter to unsubscribe yourself - we don't want to distract you from your writings .

Our newsletters are archived on our site at:

.
We are sending you links to several articles . They should make you expert on the dynamics of homeowner associations in America.

Thank you for calling. Will be happy to answer your questions when you call again. Please email us first if there are statistics you still need.

If you'd like to speak to some pro-homeowner institutional lenders, lawyers or brokers, writer or others, we will be happy to provide you with contact information.

Here is a list:

1. One Way Ticket to Hell - the Homeowner Association Theme Song by Country & Western Singer Harry Flagle and Gator Communities
(An animation E-card by AHRC about alligators - lawsuits in gated communities)

2. Victimized Homeowners celebrate Christmas - 12 days of Christmas - and working for Peace, Freedom & Justice
(An animation Christmas card by AHRC - the 12 gifts represent various problems in homeowner associations)

3. Ten things your homeowners association won't tell you.
Smart Money - Wall Street Journal article and Nellie Huang's note to AHRC
(A well written article and one the the first comprehensive ones that exposed homeowner association problems in America)


4. THE LAND GRAB - THE NATIONAL EPIDEMIC - The American housing racket
(The dangers of homeowner associations - it is a trap to steal property)

5. Behind the Orange Curtain - Homeowners victims of organized housing scams from Orange County Government Offices
(Defective homes , failing slopes, and liabilites (sic) sold to unsuspecting buyers - a corporate-government scam in Orange County )

6. Stop Me Before I Sue Again - I have lost our retirement, our kids' education and our savings to a homeowners association lawyer
( Homeowner association boards and their lawyers file lawsuits without the consent or knowlege (sic) of the owners. The owners are mired in lawsuits for years, unable to refinace (sic) or sell homes and forced to pay hundreds of thousand of dollars to finance the lawyers and, managers and their "experts". )

7. Turmoil in Paradise - Homeowners in Legal and Economic Quagmire
(Defective homes by builders, falling slopes cities pawn off on homeowners, lawsuits and bankruptcies for homeowners )

8. Elderly Face Retirement Nightmares in California Homeowners Association
Many losing homes and life savings to CAI collection lawyers' rackets
(Builders, collection lawyers and politicians scamming seniors lured into cheap desert homes)

9. 20/20 Homeowner Associations Video
Private Governments? Critics Say Homeowners Associations Can Be Too Strict
(ABC 20/20 exposes the collection lawyers foreclosures and violence in homeowner associations)

10. The Flag Gets Expensive - Former marine fights for his flag and his home
( Florida's governor Jeb Bush comes to rescue right to patriotism and homestead )

11: Remove Foreclosure Powers of Homeowner Associations - Access to this Home Equity Attracts Specialty Law Firms to a Volume Business
(The basic legislative flaw in homeowner associations)

12. Homeowner Association Insurance, A Sword, Not Shield
(Directors & Officers Insurance policies being misused by the insurance industry and their salesmen, the collection lawyers)

13: Privatopia - Homeowner Associations And The Rise of Residential Private Government
(Evan McKenzie's a former homeowner association lawyer, now a political science professor authors a study on homeowner associations)

14: Boss Thy Neighbor - Homeowner associations are an increasingly prevalent — and troubled — form of local government
(Chris Conte of Governing.com - Congressional Quarterly reviews homeowner associations)

15: Fines Make Fine Homeowner Associations - On the Civilizing of Homeowner Associations
(Some British humor for you )

16: Petition to Recall California governor Gray Davis - the architect of home foreclosure rackets
(California victims rally to recall governor Gray Davis, the architect of the homeowner association foreclosure racket.)

Sincerely,

The Staff
AHRC News Services - an interactive news center for homeowner associations

Karl Rove would be thrilled. 

 

Example 4  (AHRC - the "Swift Boat Veterans" of community associations)

Why use facts (or even bother to make them up), or any supporting evidence when you can just hurl accusations and epithets around and get away with it.  Examples:

lines their own pockets

forces homeowners to finance lawsuits that they purposely manufacture

conceals these lawsuits, legal fees and settlements from the owners

bribe politicians and civil servants, and create incestuous relationships with judges

one armed bandits that are rigged through the legislative process

Foreclosure lobby group floods Georgia libraries with homeowner assocaition (sic) propaganda

CAI Lawyers Cookin' Fraud

Egregious, flagrant, continuous threats in vivid, gut-wrenching detail with no legal merit by CAI attorney

and so on


"All active mass movements strive, therefore, to interpose a fact-proof screen between the faithful and the realities of the world. They do this by claiming that the ultimate and absolute truth is already embodied in their doctrine and that there is no truth or certitude outside of it.  The facts on which the true believer bases his conclusions must not be derived from experience or observation but from holy writ.


Our opinion (at least we label it an opinion)

This site sets the standard and tone for many of the others.  Its not a "publishing" site as it claims, its heavy-handed editing of other people's comments shows that free thought and discussion is not one of their strong points.  Its not an "advocacy" site either, since it basically is against just about everything and rarely comes up with anything even they would support.  What it is, is a rant site---a place to vent your spleen when you're mad.  Writers get to feel good when the site's editors and commentators tell them its all someone else's fault.  It doesn't fix anything, it doesn't even check or ask to see if you're telling the truth.  If you say you hate your HOA, that's all you need to join their little club.  Throw in the phrase "CAI foreclosure attorney" and you're note is guaranteed prominent placement.

The site is also starting to draw the usual whack jobs who see conspiracies everywhere, at least everywhere they've failed to have things their way. 


"Propaganda does not deceive people; it merely helps them to deceive themselves."


What you won't see on AHRC

  • Both sides of any dispute or issue
  • Reasoned discussion of an issue
  • Anything good about an HOA, manager or attorney
  • A dissenting opinion that isn't derided
  • Anything worth reading

Additional AHRC "Low's"

"This is about titleholders getting the raw end of the court-deal, the raw end of the legal representation-deal, the raw end of the legislative-deal, and the raw end of just about ANY deal as it pertains to those g-d forsaken, expensive outhouses that we pay billions of dollars for, only to be told by some piss ass barely-high-school-grad manager who INSISTS on bragging that he/she/it is so-called c-e-r-t-i-f-i-e-d (at what is anybody's guess) and an employee who likely can't converse without a dictionary in one hand, a thesaurus in the other, AND, who very likely cannot even afford a down payment of his/her/its own -- BUT TELLS US what the hell WE can and cannot do with OUR property. They can do this because they belong to an industry that gives them FREE legal advice how to SCREW YOU and ME OVER and STAY ON *YOUR* ASSOCIATION'S PAYROLL come hell or high water. The problem: we're letting them do it." Once again Donie Vanitzian shows how to win friends and influence people - how pathetic she has become

 

 

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